tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post2008700361472700138..comments2008-10-23T19:50:16.759-06:00Comments on Strong Reasons: End Times in LDS ThoughtAndrew I. Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-49663153291251045082008-02-13T07:39:00.000-07:002008-02-13T07:39:00.000-07:00thanks, matt b. From an LDS standpoint, that scri...thanks, matt b. From an LDS standpoint, that scripture doesn't mention anything about a rapture, but simply is mentioning as I explained in my post that the righteous dead will be resurrected and the righteous living will be caught up to meet Jesus <I>when</I> he comes and not <I>before</I> he comes as taught by those who espouse the rapture theory.Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-43033898386356265292008-02-10T20:22:00.000-07:002008-02-10T20:22:00.000-07:00Andrew - you've got the wrong rapture scripture. ...Andrew - you've got the wrong rapture scripture. While fundamentalists sometimes use Matthew in that way, the primary text here is 1 Thessalonians 4:16-7 (NKJV): <BR/><BR/> 16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:<BR/><BR/> 17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-23892736266273363982008-02-08T16:34:00.000-07:002008-02-08T16:34:00.000-07:00joseph,As chad indirectly pointed out, it depends ...joseph,<BR/><BR/>As chad indirectly pointed out, it depends on the "evangelical" that you're talking to as far as what they believe. I've heard some that absolutely refuse the concept of "the rapture" like we do. Others buy into it. I have a hard time, however, finding any scriptural support for such an idea. Thanks for coming by!<BR/><BR/>Chad, I hope you enjoy the readings. If you'd like more narrow topics such as the resurrection, or the nature of the millennium, the gathering of Israel, the building of Zion, etc, I'm sure I could find more for you.Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-26464902253244166752008-02-08T12:17:00.000-07:002008-02-08T12:17:00.000-07:00I am going to start using the term neo-evangelical...I am going to start using the term neo-evangelical to describe the fundametalist branch of Protestant Evangelicalism & they (neo's) do have a number of end time scernerios in which they differ. All however are based on a 7 year 'tribulation' on Earth with a millenial rule following - mostly the arguements are over the timing of the rapture in relation to the aforementioned tribulation...<BR/><BR/>Anyway...Andrew this is a good post thanks for putting it up here - I will spend the next night or so looking over the text you linked to it...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-24159274872478900452008-02-08T11:38:00.000-07:002008-02-08T11:38:00.000-07:00Excellent post. I've always been confused about ho...Excellent post. I've always been confused about how Evangelicals view the end times. I've had several explain it to me differently so I don't know that there's any huge consensus.<BR/><BR/>The whole rapture idea never really made sense to me in terms of scripture anyway.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11048864927797713323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-24775784898736465392008-02-08T07:45:00.000-07:002008-02-08T07:45:00.000-07:00bryce,Thanks for your contribution. I checked out...bryce,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for your contribution. I checked out your blog too. Pretty cool!Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-83731452928784576452008-02-08T06:32:00.000-07:002008-02-08T06:32:00.000-07:00Interesting post!I believe that the LDS view of ra...Interesting post!<BR/><BR/>I believe that the LDS view of rapture is as McConkie put it:<BR/><BR/>"Of all the resurrections that ever have been or ever will be upon this earth, the most glorious—the one that transcends all others in power, grandeur, and might—will be the resurrection that attends the return of the Lord Jesus. He will come with ten thousands of his saints, all of them resurrected persons from ages past. He will call forth from their graves and from the watery deep ten thousands of his other saints, all of them righteous persons who have lived since his mortal ministry. Those among his saints on earth who are faithful will be caught up to meet him in the clouds of glory, and they will then return to earth with him to live out their appointed days on the new earth with its new heavens." (Millenial Messiah)Bryce Haymondhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12819534334979107852noreply@blogger.com