tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post1105342155546282624..comments2008-10-23T19:50:16.759-06:00Comments on Strong Reasons: Death Swallowed UpAndrew I. Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-79058515260893693272008-01-30T20:59:00.000-07:002008-01-30T20:59:00.000-07:00chad,Great questions. As far as the garment issue ...chad,<BR/><BR/>Great questions. As far as the garment issue goes, feel free to email me about that as it's a little more private and less likely to cause any problems: dispensatormysteriorumdei@live.com<BR/><BR/>I'll do a post on the Word of Wisdom next. I'll try to answer:<BR/><BR/>1) What provoked the revelation?<BR/>2) How is "hot drinks" officially interpreted?<BR/>3) Does the revelation called "the word of wisdom" witness to Joseph Smith's calling as a prophet?<BR/><BR/>Any other questions you think would be useful to address as far as the word of wisdom question goes?Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-84388239647224044582008-01-30T18:35:00.000-07:002008-01-30T18:35:00.000-07:00AndrewYou're gonna open a floodgate with an offer ...Andrew<BR/><BR/>You're gonna open a floodgate with an offer like that...(btw the way I did utilize the Church's online ask a missionary feature but it was way too slow and limited to continue)<BR/><BR/>I do have further theological questions that would be great if responded to in a post ( I will work on presenting my list ) but i also have some questions of a "practical" nature as well.<BR/><BR/>For example the word of wisdom prohibition on 'hot drinks' interpreted as coffee and tea...does herbal tea count or just actual tea? What about coffee substitutes (and don't suggest Postum..it's horrible :) is it just a drink derived from the coffee bean?<BR/><BR/>I also have a question regarding the garments but it is somewhat intimate in nature and I wouldn't want it to be misconstrued by other reader as disrespectful (though the intention is not in the least) it might be better asked offline..<BR/><BR/>A post on origin of the word of wisdom like what provoked it (if that's the right word) and why tea and coffee were included would be good though...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-60136285131833257592008-01-30T13:22:00.000-07:002008-01-30T13:22:00.000-07:00Chad,I understand the whole issue with the mission...Chad,<BR/><BR/>I understand the whole issue with the missionaries 100%. I'd encourage you to go to church sometime if you haven't just for the learning opportunity, however. My parents went to church for a couple of years but never talked with the missionaries. Anyway, I'm glad this blog has been helpful. I'll keep posting. <BR/><BR/>What would you say your biggest interests or questions are? Maybe I could look into those topics and address them in future posts.Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-69338685605520324412008-01-30T12:22:00.000-07:002008-01-30T12:22:00.000-07:00much better (not my better)....sorrymuch better (not my better)....sorryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-53553691296612798082008-01-30T12:19:00.000-07:002008-01-30T12:19:00.000-07:00AndrewJust had a chance to see your comment - I th...Andrew<BR/><BR/>Just had a chance to see your comment - I think I did read the post you reference but I am going to read it later again...half of the excitement of all of this for me is the research and the conversation thanks for being one source that facilitates that...there is also the added element of wonder and mystery as I try to examine with both heart and mind...I would be very uncomfortable talking with missionaries as I know (from research again) that they have a timeline and a goal (not implying that is bad) this is my better...so thanks for partnering with me in coversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-34674801533946185832008-01-30T09:23:00.000-07:002008-01-30T09:23:00.000-07:00Oh yes, I'd agree. Out of all the Hebraisms, this ...Oh yes, I'd agree. Out of all the Hebraisms, this is one he clearly could have lifted from the Bible. I suggest that's not extremely likely, but clearly possible.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Have you seen my article on Hebraisms in the Book of Mormon? In <A HREF="http://strongreasons.blogspot.com/2008/01/no-evidence-for-book-of-mormon.html" REL="nofollow"> Internal Textual Evidences for Authenticity</A> I discuss parallelisms (including chiasmus), grammatical features of the text (most notably the “if..and” clause), names, etc. I think you'd find it insightful and compelling. After you see such compelling things, adding the “swallowed up” concept to the list as a Hebraism seems more likely.<BR/><BR/>I think the Book of Mormon was essentially written in Hebrew with Egyptian-like characters. I also discuss that in the article briefly.Andrew I. Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13119240321588754796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7307305968564854073.post-18031212197976340682008-01-30T08:25:00.000-07:002008-01-30T08:25:00.000-07:00This is an interesting concept of Hebraisms in the...This is an interesting concept of Hebraisms in the BoM. I have reading Jeff Lindsay and some FAIR writings on it.<BR/><BR/>I hate to play "devils advocate" here but as an investigator I must say that these Hebraisms could just as easily have been put into the BoM because they were well known to J.S. from the KJV Bible...now I am not going so far as saying he copied from the text...I am wondering however if the prhase "swallowed up" could just be something (a familiar scripture) that Smith saw in the Bible or heard read etc...<BR/><BR/>What I find more compelling are the examples of chiasmus in BoM as I think they would be harder to trasscribe in English if the words weren't being translated from some other linguistic source.<BR/><BR/>Further...I wonder what relation did the reformed Egyptian writing of the plates have to Aramaic and biblical Hebrew that they would carry such similarities?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com